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Post by Gojitron on Feb 27, 2018 11:55:55 GMT -5
Wonderful movie, really great cast. The humor was well-placed and fit the characters, not as forced as some of the other Marvel films. Wakanda was beautifully realized. Lots taken from the Christopher Priest run. Killmonger is the most fully formed movie villain to date. The script didn't shy away from addressing real world problems yet still embraced all the comic book stuff, nicely balanced, not preachy. All the female characters were fantastic. I really like what they did with Everett Ross, Martin Freeman had fun with being so out of place. CGI was a little dodgy at times, but that's every movie these days. I can see why this made so much money and why so many people of color have embraced it. I'm just afraid that now studios will start trying to copycat by greenlighting films with "black superhero" without understanding why Black Panther was so well received.
Mid-credit and post-credit scenes, nothing really critical. The post-credit teaser is a plot point from Civil War that will lead into Infinity War. It's not the Soul Gem, that's still an unknown.
Easily 5 stars.
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Post by SporkBot on Feb 27, 2018 13:11:21 GMT -5
Definitely one of Marvel's stronger films. I thoroughly enjoyed it, though I'd still put it behind a few others, like the first Avengers and Civil War (but they had the benefit of being the end result of serious build-up). Right now, I think I'd put it about on par with Winter Soldier.
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Post by Optimal Megatron on Feb 27, 2018 23:29:57 GMT -5
I enjoyed this one a lot. It was a really, really good movie, and as one of the "I'm not super familiar with the character outside of ensemble pieces" properties at Marvel, I liked how they covered most of it concisely. Definitely not afraid of the punches it was throwing, and I really liked the "both sides have a point" between Wakanda and Killmonger.
Given Wakanda's techbase, though, assuming the planet doesn't get seriously trashed in Infinity War, this has the potential to really shake up the "ten minutes into the future" that the MCU "Earth" has run on for a while. I'm very intrigued to see where this goes.
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Post by machsabre on Feb 28, 2018 0:22:12 GMT -5
I fucking loved it. To me, it's easily my #2 movie, right behind Guardians 1.
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Post by Deinonychus on Feb 28, 2018 14:03:21 GMT -5
I thought it was just fine. Black Panther is a character I had a level of familiarity with right there with Doctor Strange. Despite hating Doctor Strange with every fiber of my comic-reading being, I still really enjoyed that movie, so there was really no danger that I'd dislike Black Panther. Black Panther sort of reminded me of the first Thor movie in a lot of ways. A beautiful and technically advanced isolated kingdom experiences royal familial strife that has consequences for the world. Lots of world-building and character establishment. I feel like it did bog it down in places, but makes me think that the eventual sequel will be better. I was a little let down by a certain character death in the middle of the movie. And just prior to that in the casino it looked as if the movie was going to run with a James Bond/action thriller type vibe for a while, but that didn't last long enough in my opinion. Still, another solid entry. I can't get on-board with the people calling this the one of the very best superhero movies of all time (some of the same people who said the same thing about Wonder Woman last year), but I enjoyed it a lot and I'm sure it'll be on heavy rotation at my house when it eventually comes to FX in a couple years
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Post by Paladin on Mar 8, 2018 21:21:45 GMT -5
Pretty good, although the effects seemed really shoddy at a few points.
My major thought throughout- Has it ever been explained anywhere in the MCU how Howard Stark got the vibranium needed to make Caps' shield? They seemed to imply Wakanda was the ONLY known source of it but Howard obviously wasn't a pariah like Klaw was; that means he probably didn't steal it...
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Post by Optimal Megatron on Mar 9, 2018 11:23:09 GMT -5
Incidentally, has anyone figured out how the hell the bead kept the guy from dying/bleeding out/etc.?
Like, most of the vibranium tech is generally explained by vibranium's properties to absorb and dissipate kinetic energy. But the magic heal bead doesn't get any explanation and given the tendency of the MCU to at least provide me with logical if scientifically laughable explanations for everything, I'm kind of wondering how.
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Post by Gojitron on Mar 9, 2018 22:01:05 GMT -5
My major thought throughout- Has it ever been explained anywhere in the MCU how Howard Stark got the vibranium needed to make Caps' shield? They seemed to imply Wakanda was the ONLY known source of it but Howard obviously wasn't a pariah like Klaw was; that means he probably didn't steal it... I assume some kind of tech exchange between Stark and T'Chaka? Shuri is only 16, Wakanda's tech somehow existed long before she was around.
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Post by machsabre on Mar 9, 2018 22:42:57 GMT -5
It was pretty established (at least as far as the Agent Carter series went) that Stark had been around the world and back. I'm hesitant to include the prequel comics, but they had him claim that they found the ore in deep Africa. (Around Wakanda, but not IN it, maybe?) But also, in Iron Man II, the map that Tony Stark has that shows points of interest in the world... A spot in middle Africa is highlighted. I think it's safe to say that Howard Stark knew about Wakanda already.
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Post by Optimal Megatron on Mar 10, 2018 14:34:28 GMT -5
Either that or there were chunks that fell outside of Wakanda when the meteor hit in the first place. It's not like it's going to be a soft, gentle landing. The Wakandans getting the biggest chunk of it and actively trying to hunt down any more they can find would account for the line in First Avenger where Howard calls it "the rarest metal in the world".
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