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Post by triumshockwave on Feb 7, 2020 12:25:30 GMT -5
And... they're off. Picard has his ship and crew (more or less). The early reviewers were right, the first 3 episodes do feel like they make up one extended pilot.
Also, Hugh! I forgot he was in this show. He was not my favorite character at the time since he represented a sort of softening of the Borg threat, but that was rectified by First Contact and Voyager. I'm curious to see what the interaction is going to be between him and Picard.
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Post by SporkBot on Feb 27, 2020 15:27:11 GMT -5
Episode 5 got pretty...gruesome in the beginning. Not really a fan, but I've basically been digging the show, otherwise. Even if a couple things were kind of obvious, like Romulan "boyfriend" being evil, and as certain someone's betrayal. But at least it's played less as a heartless "for the greater good" type of thing; she seemed genuinely remorseful for what she was doing, so that'll be interesting to explore later.
And maybe more Seven of Nine in future episodes!
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Post by triumshockwave on Feb 27, 2020 18:47:42 GMT -5
Yeah, kind of sucks that Icheb comes back for 3 seconds in a flashback where he dies. At this point though, this show has featured every significant ex-Borg character. Picard, Seven, Hugh and Icheb. Now they just need to get the other two Borg kids and the members of the Cooperative.
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Post by Matrix Dragon on Feb 27, 2020 22:30:39 GMT -5
Christ, I am not happy about Icheb. Unnecessary and pointlessly cruel. You want Seven to be jaded and bitter? You already had her working to help people on the far edge of civilization, where morals are limited and evil lurks.
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Post by triumshockwave on Feb 29, 2020 5:24:22 GMT -5
I've been reading the Trek novel "A Singular Destiny", and realizing that seemingly random and pointless character deaths are apparently something post-Nemesis Trek stories have been doing forever. I was floored when one chapter of that book is a casualty list that has among other names B'Elanna Torres and Miral Paris. I'm sure that's just to set up some kind of pathos for Tom in the Voyager relaunch books, just as killing Icheb here has no purpose other than to create pathos for Seven. Maybe another book even tells the story of how that went down, I dunno. But it feels shitty.
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Post by Matrix Dragon on Feb 29, 2020 5:57:21 GMT -5
Lazy writing technique since time eternal. Mass deaths of known characters to establish the stakes. (HELLO MARVEL AND DC COMICS, GO FUCK YOURSELVES)
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Post by machsabre on Feb 29, 2020 8:39:17 GMT -5
Wait... They killed B'Elanna? Like off screen in a book? AND their kid?
These aren't canon, right?
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Post by triumshockwave on Feb 29, 2020 17:59:03 GMT -5
Yeah, the Borg tore through the Beta and Alpha quadrants before their final defeat in Destiny. The casualty list is presented as one of many put out since that occurred, indicating B'Elanna and Miral died in one of those attacks.
The novels have always been soft canon though, and conflict heavily with Picard. They're effectively their own timeline now.
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Post by Matrix Dragon on Feb 29, 2020 18:10:39 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure those two were merely presumed dead, because they were off dealing with another problem at the time.
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Post by SporkBot on Feb 29, 2020 19:37:51 GMT -5
I mean, Picard's ignored comics where B-4 was basically turned into Data, who then became Captain of the Enterprise, so...why not just ignore that B'Elanna and her kid getting killed?
If they end up keeping that canon, then I demand they do the same with that one comic story where the original TNG crew encountered a race of Grinches who were interfering with Christmas! Which was a thing I saw Linkara review! And that time they met the X-Men! Someone get Hugh Jackman back in the claws for Picard Season 2!
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